Story time: Updates on my medication & diagnosis journey

Laura Petix 0:00 I told him. I said, the reason I’m here, I want medication to help slow my brain down. I want to have less intrusive thoughts, and I want to be able to just be present instead of always like thinking and planning ahead. So in that session, he definitely agreed again, confirmed this was like the fourth professional that confirmed my life, yes, you have generalized anxiety disorder. That was not a surprise, and he said I did meet DSM criteria for ADHD. Welcome to the sensory wise solutions podcast for parents, where parents can get real, actionable strategies to support kids with sensory processing disorder. I’m Laura OT and mom to Liliana, a sensory sensitive kid who inherited my anxiety and my love for all things Disney. Consider me your new ot mom, bestie, I know my stuff, but I also know what it’s really like in the trenches of parenting a child with sensory processing disorder. Speaker 1 1:01 Okay, mom, enough about me, let’s start the podcast. Laura Petix 1:09 Hey everyone, welcome back to the podcast. I’m trying to take a deep breath because I have a long story time to share with you, and you’re welcome for a nice quiet recording, because I am sitting here sweating because I turned off the fan so that it doesn’t mess up the recording. Okay, so this is a long awaited story time update on my anxiety, ADHD journey, my medication. I recently shared on Instagram that I stopped Zoloft, and I got a flood of messages of people asking why I stopped. When did I stop? What happened? So I figured I would just dump all of the information here in one episode. I was originally going to just do this unscripted, but I didn’t trust myself for that this would just be WAY longer, so I started scripting it out. And it’s a lot, but I think this is going to catch you up to speed to where I’m at right now. So I’m going to start with some of my like, main concerns, the reason why I go to therapy, the challenges that I’m running into daily, why I started therapy, why I started medication? But I’m going to take, like, an earlier look at it. I’m going to show you what I was like as a child, in college, in high school, and then I’m going to go and take you through the timeline from when I started medication and where I’m at today. So before I was in the neurodiversity world, I would always describe myself as and my friends and my family would describe me too as Type A or the overachiever I loved to color code flash cards or take notes in a special notebook. I loved the idea of studying going to a library all day, even before the first day of school. If I got the syllabus and it said, like the chapter we were working on on the first day of school, I would read that before the first day of school, I was also the annoying student who always had questions for the teacher. I would be the annoying student to remind the teacher to collect the homework. Sorry for any troubles I may have caused you in your academic careers. And when I was at UCSD in college, there was that lecture rule, that lecture hall rule, where if you showed up late to an exam, like if you showed up to an exam and the first and the first person who was done with the test had already left, then you were not allowed to take the exam. I was always the first one done. And it was always really, really fast. I got good grades. I graduated cum laude from UCSD with a neuropsych major, and I never had a summer where I wasn’t either working or interning. I was really, really just on top of it, academically and as an early working professional, I was also a square I mean, I, of course, I did have my like, you know, I drank in high school. I did some things that I really should not have done, looking back on that, but I didn’t like I didn’t sneak out of the house. I never once in my life got a detention ever. I was always on the honor roll. All of those things when I was still in the like my parents driving me to school years, the things that I would get in trouble for. Her that my parents would get mad at me for was I was always forgetting things. I would forget a book or a jacket at school, my lunch at home, or I would leave my homework at home, and my parents would have to, like, drive back, and they would always get so frustrated about that. I also used to throw things away that I didn’t mean to throw away, like I remember being at the mall and I bought something, and we also ate at the food court, and I went to throw the food away, but I accidentally threw what I had just bought away, and I didn’t realize it until I got home, that stuff happened a lot, and if I didn’t get, like, a really good score on a test or a homework assignment or whatever it was, it wasn’t because I didn’t understand the content, because I got the answer wrong. It was because I was too impatient to check my work and I missed like a decimal, or I wrote the eight wrong, or something like that, right. I also have always been very sensitive, sensitive to emotions, my own emotions, and other people’s emotions. I could always feel like someone’s energy, and could just read their tone and body language and and always thought it was like against me, right? I was very sensitive to criticism. I was sensitive to even like casual jokes. I would cry sometimes depending on my mood. I was sensitive to friendship stuff, but also sensitive to sounds and some textures, okay, but even with all those type a honor roll student stuff, I was also frequently called or labeled ditzy. People compared me to Jessica Simpson when she had that, like, newlywed show and she was, she had all those, like, quote, blonde moments. I was airhead and spacey, and I bumped into things, but it was always like, in a cute way. I guess maybe it’s because I was a girl, and we all laughed at it, and it was like, oh, that’s Laura being Laura, right? It was a running joke in my family that I was the smartest, dumb person they knew. Like, I always like, I would say that I lacked street smarts and maybe even common sense, but book smarts I was great with, which is, you know, I can’t even really argue to that. It’s basically true. I can agree to that that’s that’s still kind of how I am today, but now that I’m in the neurodiversity world, and I’m so close to this, I’ve reflected a lot on those quirks, and I see how they have manifest in adulthood and parenthood, and I could see those now as signs of anxiety, and most recently, what I realized inattentive. ADHD, so I’ve shared a lot about my anxiety journey here on the podcast. So I’m not going to be redundant with that aspect, but just as a parent, I will just say my anxiety has grown tenfold. Whether it’s a mix of the circumstances, the hormones being burnt out, managing everything, whatever it is, it’s it’s a lot, and I think a lot of it started because when I became a parent, I lost control of so many things in my daily life, because now this tiny human was at the control panel, basically scheduling every day for me and not having control over my daily routine was absolute torture, and it really took a toll on me, and it i It still does take a toll on me to this day. All right, fast forward to maybe within the last year, maybe year and a half, I started hearing from a lot of you in my Instagram DMS, who said that you were really similar to me and that you just got diagnosed with ADHD. And had I ever looked into that? And every time I got this message, I was like, huh, I’ve gotten this message a lot, but like, I gotta tell you, I’ve never considered ADHD, so I was hesitant, but I think it’s because I kept taking things literally when I would look at the online lists of signs and screeners, and because I knew people in my personal life who had diagnosed ADHD, and I felt very, very different from them, but in hindsight, now they were all males, and they just have a different profile, a different way that ADHD showed up for them. But specifically the things I didn’t resonate with was like I at the time, I didn’t consider myself to be someone who had a hard time sitting still, which was always on the list of signs, or was, like, hyperactive. So I was like, that’s that’s not me. But then throughout this past year, year and a half, I kept seeing a lot more adult women who had this history of being diagnosed with anxiety, trying anxiety medication, and it didn’t work. And then they tried stimulants for ADHD, and all of a sudden they were like a different person. So I was like, oh, maybe, maybe that is me. I don’t know. Like, just kept that in the back of my mind. Fast forward again. It’s December 2023 I took a 17 day trip to visit my family, my cousins and my grandma in the Philippines, all by myself, all by myself, which is a huge thing for me as someone with anxiety and travel anxiety, specifically mark and Liliana stayed home, and I actually have an episode where I interviewed Mark about his experience of being a default parent for a little over two weeks, and it was a good one to listen to, so I’ll link it below. But while I was in the Philippines, I had two panic attacks. So I will say that they were semi circumstantial. First circumstance was I was in a different country without my safe person, which is my husband. But second, there were some stressful situations happening when I was there, and my resting heart rate went up to like 150 my arms and legs were like tingling as I was pacing and trying to catch my breath and stop crying. So it was full on panic attacks twice when I was there. So when I came back, I decided I’m like, You know what I think now is the time to try medication for anxiety, because at that time, by january 2024 I had a very good exercise routine. I was going to weekly therapy, I was managing my day to day, and I still felt like it wasn’t enough. So I was like, maybe now is the time to try medication. Called my primary care doctor at Kaiser, and we first did like a phone visit, and I explained my symptoms, and she was like, Yes, this is part of your anxiety. This makes sense. I think I want to prescribe you with buce Barone, or buce bar which I guess is like a mild anxiety medication. I honestly had never heard of it, but I was willing to try it, because I was afraid to start more of the like bigger medications, like SSRIs or antidepressants. So she was putting in the order for that, but first she had me come in and we did a routine check of my thyroid, other blood panels, and an EKG to check my heart, because I mentioned my heart rate was going up, all of those came back normal, well, except for my cholesterol, which is, you know, like a whole different story. But other things that could have been attributing my anxiety symptoms and the panic attack were normal. So I started the abuse bar after about like, 30 days, 45 days. I don’t even remember how long I was on it. I didn’t notice a difference. So, no, maybe it was more than 45 days, maybe it was at least two months, I don’t know, but I didn’t notice a difference. And I told her, and she said, Maybe you should try. You should go to a psychiatrist then to talk more about, like, the differentiation between medications and all that. And I was like, Great, let’s do that. I got in with a psychiatrist. On April 1, and in that first visit, we had a very long conversation. It was like an hour and a half visit about my daily struggles and really why I was there. I had it written on my phone, and I pulled that note out right now for this podcast episode. So I’m going to list everything that I mentioned to this psychiatrist. So as of April 1, 2024 these were the main things that were impacting my daily life. So I said that I can either be completely impulsive in like starting a project or buying something like, just like, I’ll think of something and I’ll buy it, like a big purchase, not big, big, but like, I decided to buy an Apple watch, and I just, like, bought it without researching it, right? So I can either be completely impulsive in starting a project or buying something, or the opposite, like completely paralyzed with decision fatigue or figuring out how to initiate it or dreading it. So it’s like one or the other. I said that I also try to have a lot of organization things in place, but I either never follow through, or there’s just too many conflicting systems that I can’t stick to. One I mentioned, I am constantly multitasking, not just physically, but mentally, like when I would be in the shower, I didn’t want to waste my time in the shower, and I would make lists in my head of things that I needed to do, or I would draft Instagram captions in my brain while I was in the shower, or if I was waiting in line at the grocery store, I would think of something to draft on my phone like I just had to constantly being to constantly be productive. I always misplace things multiple times a day, usually my phone, but sometimes it’s my water bottle, sometimes it’s the remote control, sometimes it’s the pen I was just using, because I just put it down in random spots, or I’ll rush out the door to go somewhere and then leave my wallet at home. That happens way too often. I also mentioned my sensory sensitivities, so lights, competing, sounds, some voices, vestibular and like physical symptoms that get very sensitive to, like my stomach and my heart beating, my interoception signals. I also mentioned, like a question mark around auditory processing, like is. It auditory processing, or is it, you know, attention, but I need things to be repeated several times, especially if I’m at like, a store and I’m talking to a, you know, like a cashier, or if I’m ordering food and they’re behind the counter and they ask me, like, you know, do you want that to go? Do you want that for here or to go? Like, a very quick phrase. I always say, Oh, can you repeat that? Can you repeat that? It’s like, I can’t quite hear them in that environment, or they talk too fast, or they mumble. That happened a lot recently, very easily startled, very easily startled, like one tiny sound I’ll see mark my husband, like, walk in the room and I was, like, completely zoned out on a project, and then I will, like, fully, like, jump, as if he was, like an intruder, like it just very, very easily startled. And like, my heart sinks. My heart races. It’s not just like a quick Oh, it was you. It’s like, I have to get my heart to slow down. Anxiety around time and being late, like and I get physical symptoms with this. So if I look at the clock, and I know I’m supposed to be somewhere at 11 o’clock, and it is 1042 in my head, it’s like, okay, I need to start walking downstairs, putting my shoes on to get in the car by 1045 start the car so that I can get out of the garage and Shut the garage by 1046 it takes me nine minutes to get there. I have to find parking. Like I think about every single step and every minute that is accounted for, and if someone in my life is causing me to be late, I get instant like I just can’t stop thinking about it. My throat gets tight. My heart races fast, even if it’s something that’s like, not important, right? Like, we’re not going to miss a flight. It’s literally, like we told someone we would beat them for lunch at 10, at like two o’clock, and it’s now we’re leaving the house at like, 155 and now we’ll be there at 215 like that stresses me out. Uh, I also mentioned a lot of anxiety around what others think. Like I over analyze conversations and like things that I have already said or things that I’m going to say, especially if it’s like a conflict, not really a conflict, but like a more serious conversation, not just normal everyday social conversations, but like, you know, if I have to bring something up to my husband, or if I have to talk to my parents about something, or if I I don’t know, I can’t come up with any examples right now on the fly, but I can tell you that I over analyze conversations a lot, and I get physical symptoms around it when I Think about it. I also get anxiety around my daughter becoming sick, but not for the reasons you might think, not. Like, oh no, I don’t want her to be sick. I want her to be healthy. Like, of course, yes. But the first thing that comes to mind when my daughter gets sick is how it’s going to affect my routine, my daily routine. OH, Sleep is gonna be so hard. Oh, I’m gonna have to take work off. That’s where my mind goes. Intrusive thoughts, those, those were constant and and still present. So I get like, very random flashes or visuals of random freak accidents happening, and I’m like, Why did I even think of that? I don’t. It doesn’t stop me in my tracks. It’s just they’re just constantly like fleeting thoughts that just like pop in and out of my my head. And then to him, I mentioned the two panic attacks in December while I was traveling, and then I told him, I said, the reason I’m here, I want medication to help slow my brain down. I want to have less intrusive thoughts, and I want to be able to just be present instead of always like thinking and planning ahead. So in that session, he definitely agreed, again, confirmed this was like the fourth professional that confirmed my life, yes, you have generalized anxiety disorder. That was not a surprise. And he said I did meet DSM criteria for ADHD, which surprised me that he just said that. And I said, oh, like, well, he asked, how were you in childhood? I said, Well, that’s where I think I don’t meet criteria, because I was top student. I never missed homework assignments, all of those things. And he said, Okay, well, you know, let’s, let’s think about that, and I’ll still refer you to the ADHD like department. So then, when I went home, I was thinking about that conversation we had, and I asked my mom to dig up my old report cards, and lo and behold, what were the comments that we saw from the teachers. This is quoting the teachers from my second grade, fourth grade. And I think the other one was either third or fifth grade. I don’t remember. It says, wonderful work, Laura. Work on a little less chatter. Another one said Laura is often too talkative, therefore She’s not listening. So. Another one says Laura has continued to display a positive and cooperative attitude. Please focus on listening attentively. So all of those things were starting to pile up. Those were the only ones that my mom had record of. So I can only imagine for a teacher to call this out in the 90s in a female student, means that I was probably significantly chatting it up and being, you know, like, like, off in my own world, which, which happened a lot. I would talk to other people and forget what the teacher was saying, right? So that’s when I really started digging into what ADHD can look like in women. And after learning more about it, I realized a couple of things. So one, my anxiety is still there. It wasn’t is this anxiety or DHD or ADHD? It was definitely both. And my anxiety is what was helping mask my ADHD all these years. It’s why I would start a project right away, even though it wasn’t due for three weeks. But like along the way of working on the project, I’d stop and then forget where I was, and I would lose my patience and start over several times, but I would always still meet the deadline. And the other thing I realized was hyperactivity can be internal, which I so so so resonate with. As soon as I heard that reframe, I was like, then, yes, 100 times over, I need to retake those questionnaires because I am hyperactive, if that’s what that counts as. But also my husband started pointing this out, and I realized that that counted as well, that I’m always doing something like, never just being, never just sitting. And he always will say, like, can you just sit down, like, for a second, like, You’re stressing me out, because he always sees me, like, zipping around the house doing things. So now I’m thinking, like, Okay, wait, hold on, on all of those screeners where I put no that I can’t sit still. But I was thinking of it like fidgeting or rocking, like I was thinking of kids who can’t sit still. And I was like, No, that’s not really me. But when I think of it as like, No, I can’t just sit down and do one thing. I must do multiple things at once that checks. Like I’m always fidgeting with something or doing something, like, if I’m watching a show, I must be doing something with my hands, snacking, painting my nails, folding laundry, organizing a random task on the floor, like I will find something for me to do while I’m watching TV. I cannot just sit there and just like, stare at the screen, even if it’s the most compelling show or movie ever. So with those pieces resonating, then all of a sudden, I was like, Wait, okay, I think I think ADHD really does make total sense for me. So I shared those, like teacher messages with my psychiatrist, and he was like, Yes, this confirms that you definitely have ADHD based on DSM criteria. So we’ll see what the ADHD Department says. Apparently there’s some ADHD department that handles all the screening and Evaluation at Kaiser. So I got a packet in the mail with three ADHD questionnaires, one for me to self report, one for my husband to report, then one for my parents to report on from what they remember from when I was a child, like 25 to 30 years ago, and I already knew that that wasn’t going to yield the results I knew to be true, but I did it anyway. So then I got that voicemail from Kaiser that says my results were borderline, but was technically negative on my report, although it was like one point or two points off, I guess then the other two questionnaires were far in the negative. So quote, you don’t have ADHD. Right after that, I shared it with Instagram, and so many of you were like, Girl, go back and ask for a second opinion. There’s no way you don’t have ADHD. Like, in the time that I have been going through this, I share a lot of it now on Instagram. It’s basically my whole personality, and I talk about it in all my content. So if you’re annoyed about that, like, you’re probably gonna have to unfollow me, because now it’s just, I share everything that’s on my mind now, and everyone’s DMing me all the time like this is reason number 12 153 why you definitely have ADHD, but I just love that you’re also invested, and we all have collectively agreed that I need to get to the bottom of this. So I got sucked in because I was searching all this stuff. Obviously, my phone, the algorithm, the ads know me, I got sucked into one of those online ADHD assessment companies. It was called done ADHD, and it felt too easy, but I was, like, really curious to try it. Guys. I signed up on a Monday night, like I registered, made and made my profile to find an ADHD assessment, and they had availability as early as the next day, like Tuesday morning, which was shocking to me. And they had, like, multiple appointments on for every day that week. But I signed up for a Thursday it was a 20. Call, like a virtual call with a girl who was like, looked like in her living room, like apartment, and I, I swear there was like a cat in the background. I saw her roommate, or some other person just walk in the background with like a glass of milk, or like a bowl of cereal, like, literally no patient privacy. I was like, what it was just so unprofessional, right? Like, not even a virtual background, like, come on. So I was already, like, getting, like, a weird vibe from it, but I paid $199 for this, so I went through with it. But her questions were all, yes, no, do you forget things easily? Yes, do you feel like you did this? Yes, no, yes. It’s it was even more surface level than some of the screeners I found online, like, no variability. Like, how often does this happen? It was just a yes or no, and within 20 minutes, she said, Yep, you have ADHD. Would you like stimulants or non stimulants? Like, in the same breath? And I was like, Uh, wait, um, Wait, can I can I, like, have more information? Like, what’s the difference? I was just not ready to make a decision at that moment. She goes, Oh, yeah, you know, take, take your time. I’ll leave you the name of the medications that I might recommend for you. You can look them up. You could message me on the portal. And then when you decide, you can just let me know, and I’ll put in the prescription for you. And I was like, Whoa. That was like, way, way too easy. And so within the next few days, actually, before I had even made my decision, a huge news article came out that was from the Justice Department, and they charged two of the top, I don’t know, like CEOs officers at done adhd with distributing Adderall and other stimulants for ADHD to patients who, quote, officials said, Did not merit a proper diagnosis. Holy crap. Like right within the moment that I like the week that I was already going through this, and so I immediately got a refund for that, because I was like, this is not happening. I kept getting emails from done ADHD that was like, reminding me to go back and and put my prescription request and, like, it was, it was a mess. So I got, I didn’t follow through with that, but, and I was really disappointed with that, although, like, what did I expect? Right? But it’s ironic, because it’s like, Yes, I wanted the confirmation of ADHD, but not like that. I wanted a true shot at talking with someone, and more of like, a comprehensive assessment. Like, I didn’t want to still doubt the diagnosis. I wanted to be fully, fully sure. So that was the end of that ADHD like confirmation journey, I started Zoloft, I want to say like mid April. I started at 25 milligrams for a week, then up to 50 for a few weeks, and then up to 100 by the time I got to 100 milligrams, I still hadn’t noticed any like positive effects or negative it. I said it could literally have been just a placebo pill for all I knew. Like I had nothing. And then, like, while I was starting, starting to take the 100 milligrams, I started getting night sweats, which were really, really annoying to deal with. Like, I’ve never been, like a night sweat person. I would overheat, but not sweat. And like, my legs and arms were sweating in the middle of the night. So at that point, I messaged my psychiatrist, and I said, Okay, I’m having these night sweats. I don’t like it. The medication’s not even doing anything. Can we trial a different medication, maybe an SNRI instead of an SSRI, or just any medication that could work for ADHD instead? I was like, I know that technically the screening returned negative, but, like, I still highly think that this might be an be what’s going on. Can we try this, you know? And he said, uh, yeah, let’s talk about it in person. Can you please make an appointment? So I was like, okay, and I went to go make an in person appointment. First of all, an in person appointment cost $90 and the next in person appointment wasn’t available for like, three to five weeks later. Like, No, I didn’t. I didn’t want that. I didn’t want to deal with this, so I just kept trudging along. I kept taking it. And then after like, a full three and a half months of being on the Zoloft that did absolutely nothing for my mood but make me sweat. I weaned off of it myself. Around mid July, I weaned slowly and carefully. I went down again to 50 for a few for a few weeks, and then I went down to 25 and then completely off like I did this all on my own. I still have to this day. Have not heard back from my psychiatrist. He never followed up or checked on me he has no idea i weaned myself off. Just Kaiser is the worst. So after I took my last 25 milligram pill, I felt completely fine, like no physical symptoms, nothing scary by the second week, and now, at this moment that I’m. According this coming out of the SEC the third week of no Zoloft in my system. I am extremely moody. I’m extremely irritable. I have had like a pan, two panic attacks this week, a meltdown, way more than before I even was on Zoloft to begin with. So I know I think I’m still in like, this adjustment phase where my brain’s trying to, like, bounce back from, you know, having the serotonin mechanism messed with, and now it’s, like, completely depleted. But I am so discouraged to try another medication, because, like, I was better off before I started the medication. And I think it was just it wasn’t the right medication. But I just, I really don’t like that trial and error. There is something called, like, a gene site, like, it’s a genetic testing that you could take, think it’s a saliva swab or, like, a quick blood test, and it’s supposed to tell you what medications work best for your genes, your genetic makeup, your like and what, sorry, what medications would work best for you, but it’s like three or $400 so I think right now I don’t want to go that route, but if I do go back the medication route, I would probably do that, but I would also probably focus on ADHD medications for right now, I need to just try to go, like, regain my baseline level of serotonin naturally, right? Like exercise and eating more balanced meals, eating more frequently throughout the day. So that’s where I’m at right now. It always, always, comes back to the really crappy system that is known as Kaiser Permanente, which I have shared a lot as my frustration with my daughter’s care with them. And of course, they’re me like they just are terrible for behavioral health. If you’re not from around here, you’ve never heard Kaiser you don’t know what I’m talking about. It’s basically, it’s an insurance provider, it’s Kaiser Permanente, and they’re also a medical provider, all in one so they provide the insurance, but they also provide the care. So they have all the hospitals that are Kaiser, all the medical providers are Kaiser. It’s all under the Kaiser conglomerate, which is, I also feel like, like that shouldn’t be legal, I don’t know, because you know, like they are the ones that have to pay for your care as the insurance provider, but they’re also the one who determines if you deserve care or not. So like, are they trying to be stingy with who they give care to? Like, I don’t know if that’s part of it, but I am not the only one who thinks Kaiser sucks. There’s a viral reel going out there of a comedian talking about this, and it’s very accurate. So many of you have suggested, and it makes sense that I like, why don’t you go get a private assessment, go to a private neuropsychologist, pay out of pocket for it to know once and for all. I hear you, and I also always suggest this to families. It is an option, but for me, my thought is one that’s a lot of money to spend out of pocket. And for some families, some people, it might be worth it. But for me, for just to confirm something I don’t want to spend my money on that I know I make this my entire personality. I complain about it a lot on Instagram without actually getting this private evaluation. So maybe some of you are like, okay, Laura, just like, shut up about it and go find out. But sorry to disappoint you. I’m just not going to to go through that and spend the money to, like, get a stamp of confirmation. If I have my insurance, I would rather go through insurance. So I’m just hoping soon my husband’s company changes their insurance, and so that’s where I’m at with that. My plan right now, as I mentioned, is to try to increase my serotonin naturally. So I’m trying to think of my workouts and like regularly spaced meals and snacks as if they are medication, not an inconvenience, because I used to, I still do, and it’s a habit. I have a habit of skipping snacks or lunch or a workout if I feel too busy in the day, and then, of course, I get cranky and hungry, and then I pick like, not the best choices. But if I can try to see those as my source of serotonin and endorphins, and think of that as like medication that will keep my body as functional as possible. I might have a shot of getting myself out of this hole that I’ve dug myself into by trying medication. So that’s where I’m at. The last thing I do want to say before I sign off is, please, please, please, don’t let any of my experiences deter you from trying medication or seeking support. I know when I shared my journey about trying medication, a lot of you were really hopeful and excited, and you said it inspired you to try I don’t want to take that away from you. Look, I tried it and the one medication didn’t work out, but I wouldn’t have known about it until I tried it. So it’s not a complete loss. I am an open book. I word vomit. I share these things because it just feels good to share my experience, but my experience is my experience that’s not yours, and everybody’s brain reacts differently. So please, please, if you’re considering medication, don’t let this scare you off. Definitely give it a good shot if you made it this far, thank you so much. You get a gold star. I will be back next week with another podcast. Take care. If you enjoyed this podcast, please consider rating it and leaving a review, which helps other parents find me as well. Want to learn more from me. I share tons more over on Instagram, at the OT butterfly See you next time you.